Help talk:Style conventions
Title conventions
I rewrote a little and trimmed
"An exception to this [title as text] rule occurs when the verifiable original source text of the work (not the title of the text work) uses different capitalization, and in cases of doubt, the above convention should be followed. "
I think it merely notes that there may be different sentence capitalization styles and that it is ok to adopt an author's original His or Thy.
There is a glaring set of cases where we haven't made up our minds which paragraph applies:
- Cantata BWV 39 - Brich dem Hungrigen dein Brot (Johann Sebastian Bach) rather than
- Brich dem Hungrigen dein Brot, BWV 39 (Johann Sebastian Bach)
I'm much in favor of the later. Richard Mix (talk) 00:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Apostophe's
I'm being facetious with that plural
, of course. WP distinguishes a typesetter’s apostrophe and a typist's apostrophe, and further on gives
- U+0027 ' APOSTROPHE
Typewriter or ASCII apostrophe.
- U+2019 ’ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
Typographic ('curly') apostrophe. Serves as both an apostrophe and closing single quotation mark. This is the preferred character to use for apostrophe according to the Unicode standard.[4][110]
- U+02BC ʼ MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE
These seem to correspond to fr:
- apostrophe (à usages variés),
- guillemet-apostrophe (recommandée comme ponctuation),
- lettre apostrophe (recommandée comme lettre)
There's also such a thing as an Armenian apostrophe.
Without a firm opinion on a standard, my modest proposal would be to leave redirects when moving pages from one version to another, as Donna, se m’ancidete (Carlo Gesualdo) vs. Donna, se m'ancidete (Carlo Gesualdo) Richard Mix (talk) 01:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is a surprisingly difficult issue in programming, especially in a multi-lingual setting, because even U+0027 is commonly used in programming languages. it took me about a week to figure out a way to deal with it in publication titles. I understand there was a decision made some years ago to use only one kind of apostrophe wherever possible, and with good reason. In my opinion, titles should only use apostrophes when they are a part of the original wording of the object being titled, and they should be all the same (U+0027 or whatever the decision was). The AddWork form asks users to use a backslash before an apostrophe, though I suspect that's widely ignored. — Barry Johnston (talk) 04:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- You mean a CPDL decision? It's often difficult to remember where to look for these discussions :-] I don't get that cue from the AddWorks form; I presume you mean instead one or another of the Help:Score submission guides? Richard Mix (talk) 01:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is a surprisingly difficult issue in programming, especially in a multi-lingual setting, because even U+0027 is commonly used in programming languages. it took me about a week to figure out a way to deal with it in publication titles. I understand there was a decision made some years ago to use only one kind of apostrophe wherever possible, and with good reason. In my opinion, titles should only use apostrophes when they are a part of the original wording of the object being titled, and they should be all the same (U+0027 or whatever the decision was). The AddWork form asks users to use a backslash before an apostrophe, though I suspect that's widely ignored. — Barry Johnston (talk) 04:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)